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牛凤岐:“医学测量”、“医学计量学”和“医学计量器具”
发布时间: 2014-8-31 21:27:38

og电子app《zhongguoyiliaoqixiexinxi》zazhijinniandi1qikandenglezuozhewangyingogdianziapp“yixuejiliang”gainianjitediandewenzhang,bushaoduzhetichuyiyihuoxincunyiwen,feichangxiwangquanweirenshinenggoudayijiehuo。zaizhe,jinnianlai,guoneiyouguanbumenxiangjizujianle“linchuangyixuejiliang”he“yixuejiliang”lianggejishuweiyuanhui;zaijiliangzhuanyedewangzhanshang,haipiyou“yixuejiliang”bankuai。danyihandeshi,duiyuzhiguanzhongyaode“yixueceliang”、“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”gainian,tamendoubucengzuochuguojieding。zhongguokexueyuanshengxuesuoniufengqijiaoshoushijiankuayiliaoqixiebiaozhunhuahejiliangliangdalingyu,qiexuewenshenhoudelaozhuanjia,weicitedicaifangleta。

jizhe: niulaoshininhao!zuowei《zhongguoyiliaoqixiexinxi》zazhidebianwei、zhuangaorenheduzhe,ninkenengyijingkandaolejinniandi1qishangkandengde,zuozhewangyingogdianziappyixuejiliangdewenzhang。jianyuzheiyiwentidezhongyaoxing,xiangmafanninjiu“yixueceliang”、“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”degainian、jiedingjiyizhijiao。

og电子appniufengqi: zhijiaobuganshuo。“yixueceliang”、“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”dejieding,shiwojinianlaiyizhizaixuexihesikaodewenti。ninshuodeneipianwenzhangwokanle,duiqizhongdeyixiedingyihelunshuyehennangoutong,henyuanyiyudajiayiqitaolun。

jizhe: zaininsuojiandeguoneiwaiwenxianzhong,you“yixueceliang”、“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”detifahedingyima?

niufengqi: wosuolejiedeqingkuangshi:

(1)ogdianziapp“yixueceliang”detifa,guoneiweijianguo,danyou“shengwuyixueceliang”detifa;guowaiwenxianzhong,“medical measurement”detifajishaojian。

(2)ogdianziapp“yixuejiliangxue”,youyuguoneijiliangbumenzijizhidingdejiliangjishuguifanjjg1001《tongyongjiliangshuyujidingyi》weibeiguojitongxinggainian,ba“celiang”he“shixiandanweitongyi、liangzhizhunquekekaodehuodong”douhunchengwei“jiliang”,erqie“shixiandanweitongyi、liangzhizhunquekekaodehuodong”he“jiliangxue”youduiyingtongyigeyingwendanci“metrology”,gunanyijiandandifenbianhepanduanqisuocheng“yixuejiliang”daodizhishenme;yingwenwenxianzhongqueshiyou“medical metrology”detifa,danweijichuguodingyi。

og电子app(3)ogdianziapp“yixuejiliangqiju”,guoneiyoutifawudingyi,ranerqueyourenliechuleyousanbufengouchengdemingdan: diyibufen,shi《qiangjianmulu》zhongzhenzhengyongyuyixuelinchuangzaitihelitijianyandeyiqishebei;dierbufenshisuowei“yiyongsanyuan”;disanbufenshijibuzai《qiangjianmulu》zhong,youbushuyu“yiyongsanyuan”demrihepet。yongyingwenjiansuo,queshibufa“medical measuring instrument”detifa,danxikandoushichuzizhongguode“tutechanpin”,guojibiaozhunhuazuzhi(iso) 、guojidiangongweiyuanhui(iec)、yingguoguojiawuliyanjiusuo(npl)、meiguoguojiabiaozhunyuligongyanjiusuo(nist)、deguojishuwuliyanjiusuo(ptb)dengwudaquanweijigoujunbucengtichuguo。

og电子appjizhe: anzhaoluojiguanxi,nongqingle“yixueceliang”,caihaodingyi“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”。ninrenweigairuhedingyi“yixueceliang”ni?

og电子appniufengqi: yixueshiyanjiuhejiejuerentijibing(sunshang)zhenduan、jianhu、zhiliao、huanjie、kangfujirenshenkongzhidexueke。jiranjihe、lixue、diancixue、rexue、wuxiandian、shipin、dianlifushe、guangxue、shengxue、huaxuedengxuekezhong,jiyuduijiheliang、lixueliangdengdeceliangerchengwei“jiheceliang”、“lixueceliang”deng,neime“yixueceliang”jiuyinggaishizhi“duiyixueliangdeceliang”。dangran,congxingshishangkan,zhongwenwenxianzhongqueshizhaobudao“yixueliang”zheiyishuyu,yingwenwenxianzhongyezhaobudao“medical quantity”;dancongshizhishanghedaolishangkan,miaoshurentijiepoujiegou、shengmingxianxiang、shengligongneng、binglitezheng,shuyuyixuelingyuzhuanyongdezhongduolihuacanshu,doukeyichengwei“yixueliang”。duitamendeceliang,jiushiduiyixueliangdeceliang,yejiushi“yixueceliang”。

jizhe: nei“yixuejiliangxue”dedingyini?

og电子appniufengqi: zai《tongyongjiliangshuyujidingyi》zhong,yuguojijieguide“jiliangxue”dedingyishi“ogdianziappceliangdekexue”,xiudingbanzhengqiuyijiangaozhongdedingyishi“ogdianziappceliangjiqiyingyongdekexue”。zhaocileibi,“yixuejiliangxue”dedingyijiuyingshi“ogdianziappyixueceliangdekexue”huo“ogdianziappyixueceliangjiqiyingyongdekexue”。wangyingwenzhangzhongsuodingyide“yixuejiliang”,celiangduixiangshiyiqishebei,erfei“yixueliang”,gubushi“yixueceliang”;dantadedingyiyebushizhi“shixiandanweitongyi、liangzhizhunquekekaodehuodong”,yinweizuoweiduixiangdeyiliaoqixie,henduobufuhejiliangqijudingyi,bushijiliangqiju,buguijiliangbumenjiancehejianguan。

og电子appjizhe: youleqianliangge,“yixuejiliangqiju”dedingyizhaoliyinggaibunanjichu。

niufengqi: shide。zanmenyirancaiyongleibifa。zai《tongyongjiliangshuyujidingyi》zhong,ogdianziapp“celiangyiqi、jiliangqiju”dedingyishi“dandudihuozheliantongfuzhushebeiyiqiyongyijinxingceliangdeqiju”,xiudingbenzhengqiuyijiangaozhongdedingyishi“danduhuoyuyigehuoduogefuzhushebeizuhe,yongyujinxingceliangdezhuangzhi”。juci,“yixuejiliangqiju”dedingyijiuyinggaishi“dandudihuozheliantongfuzhushebeiyiqiyongyijinxingyixueceliangdeqiju”,huozhebiaoshuwei“danduhuoyuyigehuoduogefuzhushebeizuhe,yongyujinxingyixueceliangdezhuangzhi”。

jizhe: ogdianziapp“yixueceliangqiju”dejieding,guojishangyoumeiyoukegongjiejiandexianlini?

og电子appniufengqi: guowaimeiyou“yixuejiliangqiju”detifa,danoumengwenjianzhongyou“daiyoucelianggongnengdeyiliaoqixie”detifa,erqiehaijichuledingyihuochengpandingbiaozhun,neirongshi:

diyitiao,zhizaoshangyizaijianggaiqixieyongyudingliangceliangshenglihuojiepoucanshu,huozheceliangsongzhihuoquzirentidenenglianghuowuzhideliang(duoshao),huozheceliangzheizhongnenglianghuowuzhidekeyongyudingxingdetexing。

diertiao,celiangjieguoyifadingdanweixianshi,huozheyuyongfadingdanweizhishidezhishaoyigecankaozhijinxingbijiao,kanshifoufuheyuxianyuedingdeguiding。

disantiao,zhizaodezhiliangyaoqiubaokuoceliangzhunquedu,qiemingquezhichuhuobuyaneryu,rudabudaoyudingdezhunquedu,kenengduihuanzhedejiankangheanquanchanshengxianzhudeyouhaizuoyong。

og电子appwenjianzhonghaitebieqiangdiao,zhiyoutongshijubeizheisanxiangtezheng,caikeliewei“daiyoucelianggongnengdeyiliaoqixie”。

jizhe: oumengwenjianzhongyoujulishuomingma?

niufengqi: youde。suojudelizibaokuo: celiangrentiwendudewuyuanqixie、baokuowuyuanwenduxianshidenaizui、zhishirentiwendugaoyuhuodiyuzhidingshuzhideqixie、celiangxueyadewuyuanfeiqinruxingqixie、celianggongjihuoquzirentideyeliuhuoqiliudetiji、yalideqixie(baokuodaikeduhuodandiankedudeqixie)deng。

jizhe: wojuede,oumengwenjianzhongsuozhide“daiyoucelianggongnengdeyiliaoqixie”,yuguonei《qiangjianmulu》zhongzhenzhengyongyulinchuangyixuejianyan,jitongshifuhe“yiliaoqixie”he“jiliangqiju”lianggedingyideyiqishebei,zaikoujingshanghaoxianghenyizhi。

og电子appniufengqi: woyezheimerenwei,buguooumengwenjianzhongdebiaoshugengyanmi、xizhi。

jizhe: ogdianziapp“jiliangqiju”he“yixuejiliangqiju”degainianjiranrucimingque,neiweishenmezhendui“yiyongsanyuan”shifoujiliangqijudezhengyizhijinshangweijiejueni?

niufengqi: genbenyuanyinzaiyu,chikendingyijiande,huibiogdianziapp“jiliangqiju”dequanweidingyi,guzuoyoueryanta;erchifoudingyijiande,duixiangguangainianyouduoshiyizhibanjie。ruguodajiadouyiguojigongren,qiebeiguoneijiliangbumencaina,dingrujiliangjishuguifanjjf1001de“jiliangqiju”dingyiweizhun,bukenengdechulianggejieranxiangfandejielun。

jizhe: liqinggainiandemudezaiyuzhidaoshijian。jiran“yixueceliang”、“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”sangegainiandouyouleshuofa,erqiedouyuanyujingdiandingyi,neiogdianziappshibushixianzaijiushijianyixia,qingninjifenxifenxi“yiyongsanyuan”duixiangguandingyidefuhexinghaoma?

niufengqi: yiqitaolun。xianshuoshuowodekanfa。worenwei,anzhaoxiangguandingyi,suowei“yiyongsanyuan”kendingbushuyujiliangqijuheyixuejiliangqiju。yuanyinhenjiandan: diyi,jiliangbumenjieshishuo,tamensuochengde“yiyongsanyuan”,shizhichaosheng、jiguang、fushesandaleiyiliaoqixiezhengtijiegouzhongdechaoshengbo、jiguangheshexianfashebufen。zheijiushishuo,tamendouzhishibujian,bushi“qiju”,duiyubushi“qiju”dedongxi,taoluntamenshinaleiqijushimeiyouyiyide。dier,tamendoubujuyoucelianggongneng,buyongyuceliangmude,wanquanweibei“jiliangqiju”dingyi。disan,dandudefashebufenyewufayongyuyixuemude。

jizhe: jukandengzaibenkantongyiqishangdezuozhezhoulitiandewenzhangcheng,《qiangjianmulu》zhongde“sanyuan”,yuanbenshibiaozhunfusheyuan(fushexiaoyanyuan)、biaozhunjiguangyuanhebiaozhunchaoshengyuan(chaoshengxiaoyanyuan)。jiran《qiangjianmulu》di37、40、41santiaodezhutishizhaosheliangji、jiguangnengliang(gonglv)jihechaoshenggonglvji,weishenmeyaoguashangzheisanzhong“yuan”,erqiefangzaikuohaozhongbingyong“han”zixiandingni?

niufengqi: zheijiubushiyijuhuanenggoushuoqingdele。(1)shouxianshuosanzhong“biaozhunyuan”。jiliangjiezhuanyerenshizhidao,zhaosheliangji、jiguangnengliang(gonglv)ji、chaoshenggonglvjidengsanzhonggonglvji,fenbieshijianceyixuehegongyeyongfangsheshebei、jiguangshebei、chaoshengshebeishuchugonglvdejiliangqiju。fangzaijicenggongrichangshiyongdejiao“gongzuojiliangqiju”,fangzaiguojiazuigaojiliangjishujigou,yongyuduigongzuojiliangqijuzuojianding、xiaozhunde,jiao“jizhunjiliangqiju”。danjianding、xiaozhundoulibukai“biaozhunyuan”。suowei“biaozhunyuan”,jiushianzhaoxiangguanguifanzhizuo,nenggoufashexilieliangzhifushe、jiguang、chaoshengxinhaodebiaozhunxinhaoyuan。jianding、xiaozhundejutichengxushi: shouxianyongguojiajizhunqijucechuyuxilieshurudianyaduiyingdefushe、jiguang、chaoshengshuchuxinhaodegonglv,ranhouyonggongzuoqijuzuoxiangyingceliang,yigongzuoqijusuodezhiyujizhunqijusuodezhidefuhechengduduiqizhunqueduhekeyongxingzuochupingjia。jianyuqizhongyaoxing,woguozhuanmenzhidingyouzhenduibiaozhunyuanjiliyongjizhunqiju、biaozhunyuanjianding、xiaozhungongzuoqijudejishubiaozhunhejiandingguicheng。(2)jiuxiangxiaoyantianpingsuoyongdebiaozhunfamayiyang,biaozhunyuansuiranzhongyao,dantamenzhishifuzhuyongpin,bingbuzaiguojigongrendejiliangqijumingdanzhong。zaiguojiheguowaiwenxianzhong,yemeiyouxiangguoneide《qiangjianmulu》neiyangbabiaozhunyuanliezaigonglvjihoumiankuohaozhongde。(3)suiranmeiyouguojixianli,dankaolvdaosanzhongbiaozhunyuanyusanzhonggonglvjidemiqieguanxi,zuoweigezidefuzhuyongpinzhushizaikuohaozhongyekeyilijie。buguo,anzhao《xiandaihanyucidian》zhongdejieshi,“han”zideyisishi“baokuozainei”。biaozhunyuanbingfeigonglvjidejiegoubujian,yong“han”zishibuhelide,yinggaiyong“fu”zi。

og电子appjizhe: ba“biaozhunyuan”gaichengle“yiyongyuan”,haishuodetongma?

niufengqi: dangranshuobutong。xiangxiangkan,jiranshichaosheng、jiguang、fusheleiyiliaoshebeizhongdenengliangfashebufen,zenmehuitongshiyoushichaoshenggonglvji、jiguanggonglv(nengliang)jihezhaosheliangjidejiegoubujian,huozhechengweitamendefuzhushebeini?xianranjibuheluoji,youweibeishishi。

jizhe: wohentongyinindefenxihejielun。buguohaiyouyizhongyijianrenwei,chaosheng、jiguang、fusheleiyiliaoshebei,youqishiqizhongdeyingxiangxingzhenduanshebei,shijuyoumouxiecelianggongnengde,suoyishuyujiliangqiju。ninrenweizheizhongshuofaduima?

og电子appniufengqi: woyecengjingzheiyangrenwei。danjinyibuxuexiyihoufaxian,zheizhonglijieshipianmiande。qishi,zixizhuomozhuomoguojigongrende“jiliangqiju”dingyiheoumengwenjianzhongde“daiyoucelianggongnengdeyiliaoqixie”dedingyi,jiubunanyishidao,tamendoushijiushebeizhengtihuozhengjieryande。yingxiangxingzhenduanshebeisuiranjuyoumouxiecelianggongneng,dandoushiguochengxing、jubuxingde。zhizaoshangdemudeheshebeidezhengjigongyongbingbushiyongyulinchuangceliang。zaizhe,duiyuceliangyiqihuochengjiliangqiju,shouyaoyaoqiushiliangzhizhunque;erduilinchuangzhenduanshebei,shouyaoyaoqiushifaxianhejianchubingzaodenengli,qicishiyingxiangsuojiandezhenshixing,disancaishidingxing、dingliangdefenxizonghenengli。zhengyinweiruci,chuzhongguozhiwai,qitaguojia,youqishijuyoucankaojiazhideoumeifadaguojia,conglaimeiyoubachaosheng、jiguang、fusheyiliaoshebeiliewei“measuring instrument”de。

jizhe: ogdianziapp“yiyongsanyuan”wentidezhenglunhaimeijiejue,xianzaiyouzujianle“yixuejiliang”he“linchuangyixuejiliang”lianggejishuweiyuanhui,shibishijumiangengweifuza。duici,ninyoushenmehaodejianyi?

牛凤岐: 这也是我所担心的。所以我建议: (1)首先要把医学测量、医学计量学、医学计量器具等核心概念界定清楚,为此必须遵循科学、准确、公正的原则,不能搞“想当然”。(2)其界定涉及多个部门领域和全国人民权益,应该由密切相关的计量、医疗器械、医疗卫生主管部门会同进行,并在全国范围内通过网络和纸质形式征求意见。(3)“医学计量器具”中的“医学”只是个用场,所测理化参数的学科归属才是更本质的东西,应该按此归类和管理。
 

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